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Volume III, Issue 5
February 28, 1998
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Different degrees of authority

A friend sent me the following remarks on last issue's editorial. I asked for and received his permission to publish them anonymously. KvS.

You wrote a nice piece in support of Ziegler's very interesting article, but I was a little puzzled by the way you led with infallibility. The document certainly doesn't come close to an exercise of infallibility. I would think in fact that a Catholic who complied with the guidelines on giving communion and who affirmed the dignity of the ordained minister and the tasks proper to the layman, would be within his rights to think the guidelines unfortunate and to work through the appropriate channels to have them reversed. I personally am glad of the directives of this document, but I can think of plenty of post-Conciliar curial legislation on the liturgy--for example, the Vatican suppression of the Mass of Pius V, or the approval of the barbarous ICEL translations--that I can't help regarding as unfortunate and where I console myself with the thought that the causa is not finita. In other words, much as we want to welcome this new document, we don't, I would think, want to welcome in such a way that our hands and consciences are tied when a less satisfactory document comes around.

the editor replies:

My thanks for the chance to correct a misleading editorial. I had not meant to imply that this new document is on a level with an ex-cathedra exercise of papal infallibility. My intention was to reflect not so much on infallibility proper as on the world--confounding happiness and freedom that flow from the authority of the Church exercised in all its dimensions. From this point of view, even a document that we may legitimately consider unfortunate and work to see reversed can be accepted with joy--perhaps as a discipline or a mortification; an opportunity to express our humble, filial obedience to an imperfect Mother, and to show our absolute confidence in God's ultimate protection of the Church, in spite of her fallen aspect. But, I expressed myself badly.

Now that the point has been clarified, however, I am wondering just what kind of authority this document does have. My impression from reading Mr. Ziegler's article was that it was something more than a routine curial instruction. It seemed to me to have an air of finality to it--as if the Church has been observing the efforts of the faithful and deliberating over the question for some time, and is now ready to pronounce definitively that certain practices (including some that have been normal at FUS) are not fully consistent with the mysteries at hand.

But I am certainly no expert on these things. Is there a theologian in the house who might be willing to help us out ?


Related Articles:
• Lay ministers of the Eucharist are supposed to be 'extraordinary', Noelle Hiester (II,7)
• On Catholic charity or tolerance, Fr. Giles Dimmock (II,8)
• When zeal for orthodoxy overcomes charity, Alicia Hernon (II,8)
• In defense of Noelle Hiester, Cat Clark (II,9)
• Roma locuta est, causa finita est: the end of a Concourse debate, Jeff Ziegler (III,4)
  • Different degrees of authority, Kathleen van Schaijik (III,5)
• Little hope for change, Noel S. McFerran (III,5)
• A suggestion regarding Extraordinary Ministers, Kathleen van Schaijik (III,6)


By the same author:
• NFP, by itself, does not compromise the marriage vocation, (I,1)
• What is a 'real' Catholic education?, (I,2)
• Orthodox not paradox, (I,3)
• NFP and connaturality, (I,4)
• How does a university evangelize?, (I,4)
• Thomism and intellectual freedom, (I,5)
• Keeping our worship in step with 'what the Spirit is saying' to FUS, (I,7)
• Can charismatics and traditionalists peacefully coexist?, (II,1)
• The horror of polygamy and the persistence of chauvinistic theories in Catholic academia, (II,1)
• The challenge of the Concourse: discussion without (much) contention, (II,2)
• When old ideas are breaking up, (II,3)
• Why the polygamy problem is not as passe as it appears: Kathleen van Schaijik responds to her critics, (II,4)
• Why 'charismatic spirituality' belongs at the heart of our communal life, (II,9)
• What is the University Concourse?, (III,1)
• How not to help households, (III,1)
• Silence betokens ... What?, (III,3)
• The freedom of stricture, (III,4)
• What were households meant to be?, (III,5)
  • Different degrees of authority, (III,5)
• Last words (for now), (III,6)
• A suggestion regarding Extraordinary Ministers, (III,6)
• Catholic teaching on capital punishment, (III,6)
• A final thought on the household issue, (III,6)
• What is our mission, really?, (III,6)
• What if Shakspere wasn't Shakespeare?, (III,6)
• Clinton's sorry legacy, (III,6)
• Evolution, (III,6)
• Intimidated? Please don't be., (III,6)
• A gift for the graduates of '98, (III,6)
• A point of policy, (III,6)
• A point of principle, (III,6)
• A word of thanks, (III,6)
• Love Never Leaves, (IV,1)
• Faith and Reason, (IV,2)
• A different perspective on the modesty question, (IV,5)
• Strangers to the world, (IV,6)
• Happy & sad, (IV,7)
• Oxford gaining on Shakspere, (IV,7)
• Of private and collegiate morality, (IV,7)
• Newman, education and context, (IV,7)
• Witnesses to Faith in the face of death, (IV,7)
• Viva the class of '99!, (IV,7)
• A prize winning physicist out of his depth, (IV,7)
• A positive psychology, (IV,7)
• How to become a leader, (IV,7)
• Campus politics, (IV,7)
• Thanksgiving, (IV,7)
• New face, same spirit, (V,1)
• The 'Stratford man' and the Shakespearean canon: no match at all, (V,3)
• Bringing the masses from starvation to full strength, (V,4)
• Branching out through Christus Magister, (V,6)
• Kathleen van Schaijik replies to John Doman on Shakespeare, (V,6)
• A Catholic critique of a current notion of courtship, (V,7)
• Fr. Michael's achievement, (V,8)
• Charity may be severe, (V,8)
• On the other side of the same coin, (V,8)
• Shakespeare debate update, (V,8)
• Beware of economic Puritanism, (V,8)
• What the education debate is and isn't about, (V,8)
• The Weimar Republicans, (V,8)
• Drawing out an analogy, (V,8)
• Dear Class of 2000, (V,8)
• How to support the Concourse by buying books, (V,8)
• Thanksgiving, (V,8)
• The evil of exorcising judgement, (VI,1)
• Jump Start, (VII,1)
• It's not the Vatican, it's the laity, (VII,1)
• Abusing NFP, (VII,1)


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